Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/25/2001 01:24 PM House JUD

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HB 157 - TRUST COMPANIES & FIDUCIARIES                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0073                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 157, "An  Act relating to trust  companies and                                                               
providers of fiduciary services; amending  Rules 6 and 12, Alaska                                                               
Rules  of Civil  Procedure,  Rule 40,  Alaska  Rules of  Criminal                                                               
Procedure, and  Rules 204, 403,  502, 602, and 611,  Alaska Rules                                                               
of  Appellate Procedure;  and providing  for an  effective date."                                                               
[Before the committee was CSHB 157(L&C).]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0078                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LISA   MURKOWSKI,  Alaska   State   Legislature,                                                               
sponsor,  noted that  the [statutes  related to  trust companies]                                                               
have  been  around  since  1949  and  have  remained  practically                                                               
unchanged since  then.  She suggested  that it is time  to update                                                               
these statutes, which she referred  to [informally] as the "Trust                                                               
Company  Act."   Via  HB  157,  regulations pertaining  to  trust                                                               
companies will be  put into place; up to this  point in time, the                                                               
[Division of Banking, Securities  & Corporations (DBSC)] has been                                                               
regulating  Alaska's  few  trust  companies  by  referencing  the                                                               
statutes that pertain to banking.   She remarked that she and the                                                               
DBSC have  been working  together on  this legislation  since her                                                               
first term  of office,  and now the  DBSC, the  banking industry,                                                               
and all other  persons who have looked at HB  157 are comfortable                                                               
with it.  In conclusion, HB  157 will simply provide a regulatory                                                               
process for the trust companies  already in Alaska, and companies                                                               
that are being encouraged to come to Alaska.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ROKEBERG,  after  noting   that  there  are  two  proposed                                                               
amendments,  asked  the sponsor  whether  she  has objections  to                                                               
either.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI said she does not.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0336                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TERRY  LUTZ,   Chief  Financial  Institution   Examiner,  Central                                                               
Office, Division  of Banking,  Securities &  Corporations (DBSC),                                                               
Department of Community & Economic  Development (DCED), said that                                                               
he thinks HB 157 is an important bill and is badly needed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  asked whether  there would be  "any major                                                               
earthquakes within  the industry as  a result of defining  all of                                                               
these responsibilities."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LUTZ said,  "We really  don't know;  we've put  out as  much                                                               
information  as we  could, and  [gotten]  as may  comments as  we                                                               
could  ....   One  can only  guess  what might  come  out of  the                                                               
woodwork."   He opined that  HB 157 is  a good product  and would                                                               
not be "stepping on any toes."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI added  that those  who work  with trust                                                               
companies  have been  involved with  the DBSC  every step  of the                                                               
way;  therefore, she  opined, no  one is  anticipating any  great                                                               
shakeups.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG  also affirmed that  those in the  legal community                                                               
who work  on trusts have  been intimately involved  in developing                                                               
HB 157.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  asked  whether  HB  157  puts  a  higher                                                               
barrier on entrepreneurs who might want to enter this industry.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUTZ  opined that HB 157  would make the process  of entering                                                               
the  industry  easier.   Although  the  "numbers are  higher  for                                                               
capital  standards,"  he  noted,  the director  can  adjust  "the                                                               
capital."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0611                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG  closed the public testimony  on HB 157.   He then                                                               
asked  for   an  explanation   of  Amendment   1  [22-LS0139\O.1,                                                               
Bannister, 4/25/01], which read:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 27:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new paragraph to read:                                                                                       
               "(6)  handles escrow transactions and is a                                                                       
     title  insurance  company  that has  a  certificate  of                                                                    
     authority  issued  under  AS 21.09, a  title  insurance                                                                    
     limited  producer  that  is  licensed  as  required  by                                                                    
     AS 21.66.270,  or an  employee of  the title  insurance                                                                    
     company or title insurance producer  when acting in the                                                                    
     scope of the employee's employment; in this paragraph,                                                                     
               (A)  "escrow transaction" has the meaning                                                                        
     given in AS 34.80.090;                                                                                                     
               (B)  "title insurance company" has the                                                                           
     meaning given in AS 21.66.480;                                                                                             
               (C)  "title insurance limited producer" has                                                                      
     the meaning given in AS 21.66.480;"                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following paragraphs accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 5:                                                                                                            
          Delete "(a)(1) or (8)"                                                                                                
          Insert "(a)(1) or (9)"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI   explained  that  Amendment   1  would                                                               
clarify how title insurance companies fit into HB 157.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG  noted that this  new subsection (6)  "just refers                                                               
to  title   insurance  companies  and  the   escrow  transactions                                                               
relating  to those."    He  added that  current  statute makes  a                                                               
distinction between  escrow agents and title  companies acting as                                                               
escrow agents.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0708                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG made  a motion to adopt Amendment 1.   There being                                                               
no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0722                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ROKEBERG referred  to Conceptual  Amendment 2,  which read                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, Line 2, after "settlors"                                                                                           
     Delete ";"                                                                                                                 
     Insert: "."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, Line 2, after "settlors"                                                                                           
     Insert:  "However,  the  limitation on  the  number  of                                                                    
     settlors listed  above may  be changed  by the  Dept by                                                                    
     regulation  or order  in accordance  with (b),  of this                                                                    
     section."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, Line2                                                                                                              
     Delete: "in"                                                                                                               
     Insert: "In"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, Line 5, after "(8)"                                                                                                
     Insert: or (17)                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG noted that Conceptual  Amendment 2 allows the DCED                                                               
flexibility when it  is appropriate in a  particular situation to                                                               
have more than ten settlors.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0779                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG  made a  motion to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 2.                                                               
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ asked  whether HB 157 is  based on model                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUTZ explained that the DBSC  used a combination of the model                                                               
act provided by the Conference  of State Bank Supervisors (CSBS),                                                               
and trust acts in place in 15-20  other states.  He noted that he                                                               
has not  encountered any  strenuous objections to  HB 157.   Over                                                               
the years, he  explained, there have been a lot  of questions and                                                               
amendments  to the  legislation, but  the entities  involved have                                                               
indicated that they are now comfortable with the result.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0907                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER  moved to report CSHB  157(L&C), as amended,                                                               
out  of   committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  note.    There  being  no  objection,  CSHB
157(JUD)  was   reported  from   the  House   Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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